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LEGO Ideas Women of NASA (21312) Officially Announced

LEGO Ideas Women of NASA (21312)

LEGO has officially revealed the LEGO Ideas Women of NASA (21312) set. There were images of it that showed up online a few days ago but we now get the details of it. It will be available starting on November 1 for a retail price of USD/Euro 24.99 and if you’re in New York City on October 28, you can meet the designer of the set Maia Weinstock, aka 20tauri.

LEGO Ideas Women of NASA (21312)

Follow in the footsteps of 4 pioneering women of NASA (National Aeronautics and Space Administration—America’s space agency) with this fun and inspiring LEGO® set. Build the Hubble Space Telescope and learn astronomy with the ‘Mother of Hubble’ Nancy Grace Roman. Develop the software for space missions with computer scientist Margaret Hamilton. And launch the space shuttle with Sally Ride, the first American woman to fly in space, and Mae Jemison, the world’s first woman of color in space. Build, play, learn and one day you too could become a science, technology, engineering or mathematics superstar!

LEGO Ideas Women of NASA (21312)

A personal tribute to pioneers

Science editor and writer Maia Weinstock combined three of her personal passions in designing the Women of NASA set for LEGO® Ideas: space exploration, the history of women in science and engineering, and LEGO building.

“I thought people might like to build their own display featuring minifigures of accomplished women in the STEM [Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics] professions. For the vignettes, I wanted to contextualize each person in terms of her contribution to NASA history.”

“I was absolutely elated when the project reached 10,000 supporters! The set clearly touched and inspired many, as it reached 10,000 supporters in just 15 days. The night on which it appeared we’d reach 10K, I stayed up until 4:30 or 5 in the morning so that I could watch the 10,000th vote come in. I didn’t get much sleep that day, but it was thrilling!”

LEGO® Designers Gemma Anderson and Marie Sertillanges were thrilled to help refine Maia’s model into an official LEGO set.

“I was extremely excited about working on this one, especially as I had already heard of it and really wanted it to become a set,” says Gemma. “My focus was on ensuring that the model had stability, the colors were aligned and the subjects were accurately portrayed, all while staying respectful to the design of the original model.”

For Marie, “The main challenge in designing the minifigures and the decorations was that I could not make anything up. Every detail was important and needed to match reality, since they represent real-life women. It was beautiful to hear some of the stories behind the scenes, like how Sally’s name tag was changed from ‘Sally Ride’ to just ‘Sally’ at her own request.”

Pre-release box signing event

To celebrate the upcoming release of the Women of NASA set we’re happy to have Maia Weinstock join us at the Flatiron District LEGO Store in New York City to meet and greet fans, while signing the Women of NASA LEGO set at this exclusive pre-release event.

Date: 28th October, 2017 from 10am – 2pm
Location: LEGO Store, 200 5th Avenue, Flatiron District, New York City.

LEGO Ideas Women of NASA (21312)

LEGO Ideas Women of NASA (21312)

LEGO Ideas Women of NASA (21312)

LEGO Ideas Women of NASA (21312)

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94 Comments

  1. Matt Bailey

    Love how the built the display pedestals

  2. Reaven Veaceslav

    I’m still not sure how I feel about the material being dangerously close to a minifig pack and not representative of a valuable use of Lego ideas, but it seems like they’ve managed to bridge the gap into something that’s more of a vignette like their seasonal builds.

    The price point is pretty reasonable too, I was concerned that Lego would decide it was worth far more than reasonable and make it 40$ or so.

    • Gomek

      There is still room for Lego to mess the price up. Research Institute was also reasonably priced, but they messed that all up when they couldn’t make enough and you couldn’t find them for less than $60 on the secondary market.

      Also I loved the season vignette builds from a couple years ago.

      • Reaven Veaceslav

        I’m seriously hoping Lego learned something from that. It’s a cheap set, you would think they’d make even more of them. Maybe I’ll see if my local Toys R Us will sell it to me early, they do that sometimes.

        • Gomek

          Lego has always made very odd decisions. When all that bad press was going on (one can still find a lot of negative articles about it on the web) all Lego had to do was say “Sorry, we didn’t anticipate this sets popularity, don’t worry we’ll make more” yet some how the set got more scarce and they soon discontinued it all together (despite the demand and bad press).

          point being.. if they didn’t learn enough to fix the previous bad situation while they could, I’m not sure I have much hope they won’t repeat their mistakes.

          • Reaven Veaceslav

            It sounds like Nintendo. “We have heard everyone’s complaints that we didn’t make enough NES classics to meet demand, and have decided to cancel all production. That should make everyone happy right?”

          • Gomek

            Funny, I just had someone last week walk me through their whole emulator set up.

            I’m not sure I’m going to get involved in all that, but as consumer whose kids live for video games, (but still makes the primary buying decisions), that sort of thing is a huge turn off.

  3. Scarilian

    The creator is a feminist who is very sexist towards males, so due to principles i will not be getting this set and will not recommend it to anyone either.

    In terms of thoughts on the set design, it sucks. The only good builds are the Rocket and the satellite. Many of the outfits are not accurate to the time. Lack of printing on legs for a majority of the figures. Lack of arm printing. To me it also feels unfinished, could have easily removed the lower segments (display pedastals) and given us tiled floor pieces.

    • Caleb Amos

      Someone is biased…

      • The Anonymous Hutt

        Yeah, he has a reason to be.

        • MarvelAge

          No he doesn’t.

      • Scarilian

        I personally prefer the acknowledgement of Women of Nasa who where actually ignored, rather than a selection of those who were clearly acknowledged in many different forms.

        If someone demonstrates a clear prefrence to one sex and a dislike at the other, that is sexism – and that is what is demonstrated by the creator only sharing and promoting females while ignoring the males. That is the definition of sexism.

        • Caleb Amos

          I’m not going to tell you to go to hell like that other guy… Yikes, what a reaction.
          I personally don’t feel recognizing a woman for her achievements is a bad thing. I can agree though, that the recognition should be based on the achievement itself rather than based on the fact you’re a woman.
          I am a man who shows an obvious preference for women… If you know what I mean. Does that make me sexist? I don’t entirely agree with that definition. A simple preference to a certain sex is more probably a simple opinion than actual sexism.
          I personally didn’t get that vibe from this set. For me, I plan on getting it for my wife who, 1 is a woman, and 2 likes NASA.

          • Scarilian

            I dont feel recognizing a woman for her achievements is a bad thing either.

            I just think the set could have had a better title for a start, rather than ‘Women Of Nasa’ which seems to make the focus more on the sex. I agree that they should be acknowledge for their achievements as much as males – equality is my standpoint in this.

            I get what you mean completely, it just seems a bit strange/odd when i see the creator of this set only ever acknowledge one sex and only ever submit lego ideas of one sex.

            It does make sense as a good gift for your wife from the sound of things, would probably recommend getting the Apollo Saturn V also as the micro figures would work well with the rocket and satellite if given the right display 😛

          • MarvelAge

            Clearly you do have a problem with them being recognized for their achievements and have proven your gullibility in regards to social issues, including the very real wage gap and toxic masculinity, which has nothing to do with sexism towards men. In fact, it affects men negatively as well.

          • Scarilian

            @HydraSuxxx:disqus
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBFfI9925Q4

          • MarvelAge

            I’m not watching that. YouTube is an awful source when it comes to getting facts, and they’re known for manipulating facts in order to support an opinion.

          • Crazt Maist Waizy

            Do you block everyone who challenges your hateful anti-woman screeds? You were the ones being insulting to the creator of this Lego set and to others, and slandering her while doing so. Don’t like a taste of your own medicine? Don’t become a pharmacist.

            You came on her and perverted the simple goal of the most fun thing in the world, LEGO, something that brings joy to children and takes us all back to our childhoods, something so special, pure and beautiful- you came her and perverted it, like you just can’t help yourself when something happens to bring women up instead of keep them down. Who does that?

    • Josh

      Oh go to hell. She is not “sexist towards males.” I did an hour of Googling and couldn’t find a shred of evidence for any type of sexism. She’s simply trying to draw attention the contributions women have made throughout history and the way they are overlooked or minimized on Wikipedia and other places. This is a great way to do just that. If you can provide a single bit of evidence that she’s actually sexist, I will be very surprised. It’s pretty obvious that you’re the sexist one.

      I wasn’t planning to, but just because of this dumbass comment, I’m going to buy two extra copies of this set and give them to my nieces to make up for the copy you don’t buy. I’ll send you a screenshot to prove it when I do.

      • Scarilian

        ” I did an hour of Googling and couldn’t find a shred of evidence for any type of sexism.”

        Hour of googling, and you could’nt find her twitter page, lego ideas page… i dont even know what to say to that. Maybe you actually did, but it sounds like you are just being dismissive and not actually looking into things but just want some form of petty fight.

        “If you can provide a single bit of evidence that she’s actually sexist, I will be very surprised.”

        – Not a single acknowledgement of any male advancements in the fields of science on her twitter.

        “She’s simply trying to draw attention the contributions women have made
        throughout history and the way they are overlooked or minimized on
        Wikipedia and other places” – Josh

        Complete and utter nonsense. Every women of Nasa her has been thoroughly recognised and acknowledged on multiple websites, many have recieved awards for their contributions to the field.

        Wikipedia is user contributed – and actually provides a lot more details on women of Nasa. Her selection is the most famous rather than the least and each has a dedicated wikipedia page and several have awards and acclaim.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Ride
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Roman
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Hamilton_(scientist)
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mae_Jemison

        If she wanted to actually recognise the accomplishments of those in Nasa who are overlooked then she would have selected those who were actually overlooked.

        • Captain America

          If you buy the set then maybe they’ll make more celebrating more women.

        • Purple Dave

          Katherine Johnson was part of the original proposal, but Gizmodo got a quote saying they chose not to include her because they couldn’t get permission from all of the key parties. It doesn’t specify whether they were actively denied permission, or if they simply failed to get in touch with the right person, but in the end they dropped Johnson in favor of moving forward with the rest of the project.

          When news first broke about this, I do remember seeing some fairly sexist quotes attributed to Weinstock (something along the lines of boys needing to learn their place?), along with the fact that all of her Ideas proposals up to that point had basically been various “Women of…” minifig packs. I kinda also remember being called sexist for calling out other people for telling me I don’t deserve to get what I want because of what’s between my legs. Still working on finding the humor in that level of irony. Still kinda bitter that this is likely to be the only set that features actual NASA personnel. Also kinda thinking that in the interest of being fully inclusive, Yuri Gagarin probably deserves a minifig, too (dude actually sat on a Soviet rocket and let someone pull the pin).

          • Scarilian

            Unfortunate that they could not get Katherine Johnson also.

            It is unfortunate that the views of the creator might be solidifed because of this set being created.

            Thanks for responding sensibly, i know the comment section has been a bit crazy.

        • Crazt Maist Waizy

          Wow, this is moronic.

          The gender pay gap exists. Fact.

          I bet you’re really popular on MRA forums, aren’t you?

          Tell me, do you think Black Lives Matter are a terrorist group as well?

          • Scarilian

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBFfI9925Q4

          • Crazt Maist Waizy

            Sorry, I don’t watch YouTube videos as supposed ‘proof.’ Its about on a par with showing me an Infowars article.

          • Scarilian

            I only linked it due to condensed information to save you time and not waste your time with a bunch of links to varying articles that are summarised quickly.

          • Crazt Maist Waizy

            I kind of expected you to believe actual studies, papers and research as ‘a waste of time.’ Not a surprise. Please try again, friend.

          • Scarilian

            Please provide a source that you feel is acceptable – if you do so i can then provide counterpoints of a similar nature.

      • Reaven Veaceslav

        “Go to hell” “It’s obvious you’re the sexist one” “dumbass”

        Boy that’ll convince the person that your argument is correct and they should edit their viewpoint. Great debate skill.

        • Crazt Maist Waizy

          Why shouldn’t we tell misogynistic weirdos to go to hell? If it exists, men who treat women as little more than objects are going there anyway.

          Because that is what this set is about. Recognising women who we don’t usually because their gender prevents them getting the fame they deserve, and people against it are people who would prefer to continue to ignore women and demand the rest of us do.

          I refuse. I refuse to ignore women. I refuse to ignore women’s achievements. I refuse to continue to let the world stomp women down into the ground instead of lifting them up like it does to men no natter how much or how little men deserve it.

          By the way, you didn’t come across all self-righteous when Scaredilian called feminists ‘sexist toward men,’ saying ‘it sucks,’ and the like. But then that’s just yet another double standard people against equality have.

          • Reaven Veaceslav

            Congrats! They’re even less likely to consider anything you say the more you openly bash people who even dare not comment on an issue exactly in line with your belief and viewpoint. But you know, keep doing what you do I’m sure ‘someone’ will listen to you if you swear at them and harass them enough, if nothing else but out of fear and social harassment.

          • Crazt Maist Waizy

            You didn’t even read my comment or even attempt to engage. Not surprised.

          • Reaven Veaceslav

            I’m heavily feminist. I already agree with your views on what Lego is doing. I like the sentiment, but I don’t really like it being an Ideas set when I much preferred its competitions’ quality.

          • Crazt Maist Waizy

            Funny how you seemed very against it before.

          • Reaven Veaceslav

            Funny how you interpreted that from thin air. I said the guy shouldn’t harass people as a debate mechanism, not what I felt about their views.

          • Crazt Maist Waizy

            No, I didn’t. You were outraged because we didn’t use the correct words as decreed by you, but not by his ridiculous sexism and lying. That’s a pretty good indication.

          • Reaven Veaceslav

            Fair enough, but I didn’t want to debate sexism and feminism on a Lego set. I just don’t appreciate the style of harassment that’s going on between people here.

          • Crazt Maist Waizy

            This is what is commonly termed ‘concern trolling.’ Pretending you are just an independent observer and claiming that you are simply fairly criticising both sides when actually you have already taken a side, and therefore are pretending that the people you don’t agree with are being horrible while ignoring all the horrible things the people you clearly agree with do.

            I appreciate some of what you are trying to achieve, but you are, maybe unknowingly, doing what is termed ‘concern trolling.’ Its isn’t too difficult to unlearn such behaviours, and hope this helps even a tiny bit in that process.

          • Reaven Veaceslav

            Sorry, but when you call someone a dumbass and tell them to go to hell on a Lego site to try and convince them to be a feminist and agree with Lego’s decisions, that is completely out of line with anything resembling respectful conduct.

            I don’t know about concern trolling, but maybe it’s too much to expect a shred of decency.

          • Crazt Maist Waizy

            You’re doing it again, as well as tone policing.

          • Reaven Veaceslav

            And you’re justifying that verbal harassment is acceptable public behavior.

          • Crazt Maist Waizy

            You’re pretending their is and ignoring sexist abuse by Scarilian. You’re not a feminist.

          • Reaven Veaceslav

            And you’re encouraging verbal harassment

            You’re not a feminist.

          • Crazt Maist Waizy

            Now its ‘no puppet, you’re the puppet!’

            This is tiresome. Maybe argue against the sexism on this thread instead of… whatever it is you’re trying to achieve.

          • Scarilian

            As i said, it is not worth trying to talk with @disqus_kCkuA6ye8Y:disqus. They slandered me several times and have taken a confrontational tone. You’ll just waste time trying to have a civil discussion.

            Part of me expects they are trolling to be honest, they say they have been civil yet have spent the majority of this conversation insulting you, me and others.

          • MarvelFan

            “They slandered me several times”

            You poor, fragile manbaby

          • Crazt Maist Waizy

            How these people can come into a thread screaming slander at a whole group of people, yet when anyone points it out, they scream that they’re being ‘slandered’ is beyond me. Its kind of funny, but really not at the same time.

          • rogerthatokay

            Just in case the next time you try to pass the GED and the word “slander” comes up:

            laws.com
            Libel and slander are both forms of defamation. Defamation is a common law tort, governed by state law, in which an individual makes a “publication” of a defamatory statement of and concerning the plaintiff that damages the reputation of the plaintiff. The distinction between slander and libel comes in the form of the publication.

            Slander involves the oral “publication” of a defamatory remark that is heard by another, which injures the subject’s reputation or character. Slander can occur through the use of a hand gesture or verbal communication that is not recorded. Libel, on the other hand, is the written “publication” of a defamatory remark that has the tendency to injure another’s reputation or character. Libel also includes a publication on radio, audio or video. Even though this would be considered oral, or verbal, communication to someone it is actually considered to be libel because it is published in a transfixed form.

            You’re welcome.

          • Crazt Maist Waizy

            You do see who initiated the discussion didn’t you? Because it wasn’t me.

          • Crazt Maist Waizy

            You didn’t read my comment. Read it back and see that your reply made no sense.

          • Reaven Veaceslav

            Maybe you were unclear. I don’t see the issue

          • MarvelAge

            We really don’t need sexist people who clearly lack social awareness to care about or understand when they don’t seem to do either for simple facts. Stop tone policing and get over yourself.

          • Reaven Veaceslav

            So your goal “isn’t” to try and make people understand where you’re coming from? What’s the point of even arguing your viewpoint if you don’t care about Scarilian’s interpretation of feminism?

            I’d rather you be here to try and change minds, because if you’re not here to do that, it sounds like you’re just here to harass people for personal enjoyment. I respect someone who wants to push their belief more than someone who’s just playing around.

          • Crazt Maist Waizy

            He doesn’t have an ‘interpretation’ of feminism. He has flat out lies about feminism. He literally hates women, so no, we don’t have to be tone policed.

          • Scarilian

            Slander is not appreciated.

          • Crazt Maist Waizy

            Says the guy telling us that feminists are sexist and hate men, then post videos by a known rape apologist. Don’t play the victim.

          • MarvelFan

            Oh wow, so @scarilian:disqus was REALLY reaching with that vid. Of course he of all people wouldn’t have a valid argument.

          • Reaven Veaceslav

            I’m don’t know whether he literally hates women, but if you want the guy to change his views, I’m not sure that completely dismissing his value as a person and a belief holder is going to achieve this.

          • Crazt Maist Waizy

            I did no such thing.

            Besides, I’ve seen enough sexism and hatred over the years to know that these kinds of people are not bound by reason. You cannot reason with them because they have no concept of logic, just blind prejudice. Having experienced this online for years I know that they will only change their thinking when the women in their own lives get targeted by the same stuff, and even then a lot don’t. Reasoning with such people is useless, you can only warn others about their dishonesty and hatred.

          • Reaven Veaceslav

            So reasoning against him is useless, yet there are dozens of replies on this thread between people arguing over the matter, and you’re ‘continuing’ to argue about it with him

          • Crazt Maist Waizy

            As I have already pointed out, women need to see they are supported. This isn’t for the unreasonable ones, this serves to show onlookers the dishonesty and trolling tactics that they.may be subject too.

          • Reaven Veaceslav

            Well, have fun I guess telling people to go to hell. I’m sure that will make women feel secure knowing you’re willing to verbally abuse others for them.

          • Scarilian

            I would’nt bother trying to talk with @disqus_kCkuA6ye8Y:disqus they will just verbally insult you, just block them at this stage.

            Tried having a civil discussion with them – but it’s just not worth it.

          • Crazt Maist Waizy

            You haven’t tried to have a civil discussion at all. Have you even seen your original post?

            No wonder women feel intimidated with MRAs everywhere, even whining about a single, innocent Lego set! I’d have thought Lego websites would be the one place where ridiculous anti-feminist abuse wouldn’t be, but I guess when you want to press your own worldview on women, any channel will do- and in unexpected places are where a certain type of person finds it the most fun, I suppose.

            How have I been uncivil to you in a way more uncivil than you have been here? I’ll wait.

          • Reaven Veaceslav

            This entire thread should just be deleted at this point. Nothing was accomplished

          • Crazt Maist Waizy

            See, what you’ve just done is, yet again, completely ignore everything I said because you couldn’t refute it, in favour of randomly claiming I’m somehow being more civil than Scaredillian.

          • Reaven Veaceslav

            You are being largely civil, thanks for that.

          • MarvelAge

            I don’t care what you’d prefer. Like, everything you’re saying here is totally irrelevant.

          • Reaven Veaceslav

            If you don’t care, then why are you even communicating? You’re not making a strong case.

          • MarvelAge

            Lol what? I really don’t want to converse with you, have never said you’re not a feminist, really don’t want to change backwards people like Scarillian’s minds, and dislike your tone policing.

            You’re blocked now.

          • Reaven Veaceslav

            Wow, now everyone is going to believe you’re right. I’m sure everyone will believe you’re correct and other people are wrong when you’re so intolerant of other’s beliefs that you can’t even handle the concept of someone who doesn’t share your views of debate.

          • Crazt Maist Waizy

            See, you’re being nasty here. Just… Nasty, passive aggressive attacking.

          • Reaven Veaceslav

            Well, it seems to be the preferred language in this conversation, and perfectly acceptable as a way of debate. If it’s wrong to say we shouldn’t be mean, I guess there’s no point in preserving my own values.

      • Crazt Maist Waizy

        Have you noticed he deleted his hateful, abusive first comment?

        So is he trying to hide his first comment here so he doesn’t look as bad? Because the videos he posted made by a rape apologist are still there, so it doesn’t really work.

        Or was it deleted by a moderator? Could be that too.

    • Captain America

      Oh boy what a load of disappointment. Used to watch your videos on Doctor Who, still bump shoulders with you on CBM, and I thought you were better than this for some reason.

      Feminism =/= sexism towards males. And honestly I don’t know what sexism towards males is? It’s not systemic like misogyny is so it has no affect at the end of the day, and I don’t see any examples of sexism from her.

      As for “focusing on sex of the person and not achievements”, the minifigures aren’t even close to being the focus. The focus here is clearly what each person had done. There’s Hubble, there’s a space shuttle, there’s research going on there. You could switch the figures out with anyone and they’d be following in the footsteps of the people on which these figures were based.

      I personally love the builds tbh

      • Rob N. Hood

        That’s simply not true.

        “Feminism =/= sexism towards males.”
        I agree, but the opposite is true as well, sexism towards males =/= feminism. This set clearly makes a point of celebrating the women of NASA just because they are women. Yes, they have made significant contributions to their respective fields, but so have many of the men who worked/work at NASA, and excluding them just because they aren’t women is sexist. Like Scarilian said, if the Lego Group were to make a “Men of NASA” set, it would be considered sexist (trust me, it would). So if a set excluding females is considered sexist, why not a set excluding males?

        As for “focusing on sex of the person and not achievements”, a set called “Women of NASA” seems to speak for itself, doesn’t it?

        • MarvelAge

          Your first bit you did there where you reversed the things on each side of the equal sign makes no sense. There is no sexism towards males here.
          And yes, it celebrates the women of NASA. No, it’s not just because they’re women, it’s because they’re pioneers who are worth recognizing. It’s celebrating what women have done, and the women who did them.
          The men who work at NASA haven’t been forgotten. Men usually get time in the limelight. Their achievements have been celebrated time and time again without issue, so I don’t know what the issue is when women are celebrated for theirs. Yes, they’ve received honors and awards, but are they not also sources of inspiration for young girls everywhere? Should they not be recognized for their achievements or not have their stories told through a medium kids use to expand their creativity? Is this set, which shows women who overcame patriarchal barriers in order to achieve greatness and celebrates their contributions to society, not a perfect way to introduce these heroes to a new generation of young girls and boys aspiring to do great things in STEM-based careers?

          Yes, women of NASA speaks for itself. It shows the women who have done great things for NASA and showcases what they’ve achieved. Get over your insecurities.

          • Rob N. Hood

            It makes a lot of sense, actually. I’m not talking about other parties, I’m talking about the Lego Group’s decision, not anyone else’s. Consider the reaction of the people buying this set. The Women of NASA set will probably be considered, as you yourself have said, a source of inspiration for girls everywhere. Now, if you were to change this set, call it “Men of NASA”, and feature only men, it wouldn’t be called a source of inspiration for boys everywhere, would it? People will call the Lego Group sexist for making a set that makes men its primary focus. So if one side is called sexist, why is the other celebrated?

          • MarvelAge

            Because patriarchal society has held men in higher regard than women since basically forever. They haven’t been systemically disadvantaged for their gender and haven’t had to overcome the same challenges socially women have had — and still have — to.
            Boys have male heroes and idols literally everywhere. Perhaps they — and you, as well — should start recognizing women as heroes and stop being so reluctant to celebrate their achievements.

          • Rob N. Hood

            I wasn’t saying that their accomplishments shouldn’t be recognised, I find members of both genders equally as inspiring.

          • MarvelAge

            You’re very clearly reluctant to celebrate their accomplishments and can’t do it without arguing that they shouldn’t get their own set for themselves without men being involved. You’re a prime example of the toxic masculinity upholding the patriarchal system that makes this set necessary,

          • Reaven Veaceslav

            Toxic masculinity? You’re completely incapable of handling someone who reasons out their beliefs in equality differently than yours without resorting to buzzwards and pre-packaged arguments.

      • Scarilian

        “Used to watch your videos”

        I feel you may be leaping to an assumption that i am actively against feminists, i am not. I am actively for equality.

        I did a video about equality recently, it is one of two that remain on youtube for me atm.

        One is focused on unvieling a character as a homosexual stereotype – and ensuring such things do not occur again

        The other is handling the misguided/pandering nature of a Doctor Who fan show video that tried to say that Doctor Who has always represented everyone despite only providing stronger diverse casts since its revival.

        I believe in true equality – true equality is not focusing on one above the other. Personal prefrences do apply obviously, you are’nt sexist for wanting to acknowledge the achievements of someone – however if you consistently ignore the achievements of someone else because of their sex – then that is sexist.

        Not a single remark from the creator of this set acknowledges males, yet over 1000+ posts acknowledging female NASA members exists and the only male NASA post i could find (think it was back in 2016) did not even acknowledge the achievement, just getting them to pose with a Lego figure.

        “Feminism =/= sexism towards males”

        Feminism has taken many different forms over the years.

        Originally it was the idea of true equality, men had the right to vote so women should be able to also – which was fixed.

        Since then it has had many focuses, all of which were fixed including the idea of women not being hired as often as men, women not being paid as much as men, women not being allowed to do certain jobs, etc…

        Equality has been achieved at this stage. The only places that do not follow equality are publically shunned and disliked by many. Businesses actually benefit from adhering to hiring more women due to the diversity qouta.

        Originally feminism was not being sexist towards males, in recent years however it has become that unfortunately – promoting the achievements of one sex over another and granting considerable privileges to women that enable them rights over custody, alimony, lawsuits, etc…

        Being female nowadays is the best time you could ever possibly be female.

        “The minifigures are just the people who pioneered in these advancements
        and it’s celebrating their achievements, it’s not about gender.”

        Sex is biological.
        Gender (Nowadays) is how they individually view themselves

        The title seems to make the sex of the people involved the focus. It’s labelled as ‘Women of Nasa’ – just the same as every other ‘Women Of’ set that the creator has made. That’s where i find issue with the set in terms of principles.

        “I personally love the builds tbh”

        The build admittedly is not as focused on the sex and has little vignettes, my issues dont really lie with the build or the figures, just the title of the set (which admittedly i’m not sure what a better title would have been, maybe ‘NASA Base’?)

        As for the builds, i think the Margaret Hamilton one could have been better, feel the coat rack and stack of papers are a little boring. It should have had a fourth module given it has four figures. Perhaps a layout such as ‘Rocket’, ‘Satellite’, ‘Computer display area’ and ‘Astrology room’ could have worked.

        • MarvelAge

          Firstly, you don’t need to explain the difference between sex and gender. I intentionally use the word gender.

          Secondly, equality has not been achieved. Not even close. But it isn’t my job to give you a history lesson to teach you. Not sure what drugs you’re on, but “in recent years”, feminism has not become sexist and it is still about equality of the sexes.

          Thirdly, you have an obvious problem with women’s achievements being recognized. The set isn’t called women. It is Women of NASA. It’s their achievements and contributions to society. However, it’s clear that your fragile masculinity is against that sort of recognition for anyone who isn’t a dude.

          • Scarilian

            “I intentionally use the word gender.”

            So you assumed the gender of four people.

            “equality has not been achieved”

            Describe your view on equality please, what do you feel needs to be done and when will equality be reached?

            “fragile masculinity”

            You’ve claimed i have fragile and toxic masculinity, both of these are opposites by the definition. It’s not possible to actually be both – and honestly at this point your attempts at insulting are just making it more likely for you to get banned by the site owner.

          • MarvelAge

            I’m not trying to insult you whatsoever. However, it is painfully clear that you lack understanding, and this mostly isn’t worth conversing with you about for that reason. I’m going to keep this relevant to a Lego site by tying it back to the product that upsets your fragile (as far as I recall I’ve only said you have fragile) masculinity (which is a concept you clearly don’t understand) by recognizing women for their achievements, and say that women should be allowed to be celebrated for their achievements without men complaining or forcing themselves into it.

  4. The Anonymous Hutt

    Hey, at least it looks better than the original project that I could build blindfolded! (Not really, I hate blindfolds)

  5. The Anonymous Hutt

    I come back to this post and I see 60+ comments of people complaining about each other’s debate skills. I think the mods and I are having fun sitting back and watching the show!

    • Reaven Veaceslav

      Honestly I’ve almost never seen any moderation action taken through Disqus.

      • The Anonymous Hutt

        I didn’t mean that the mods were lazy, lol. But, they probably are.

        • Allen

          There were debates when the project was announced as the winner. I knew there would be debates when it was going to be announced. There will be debates when I do my review on it. It won’t change in the society that we live in.

          I’ve read every comment. I made the decision of leaving the comments open when I did the post.

          • MarvelFan

            That would be great if this were intended to be a platform on which people were supposed to argue, like on a forum such as Eurobricks, but this is a news site where a lot of families and children get their news and the toxicity of some of these comments is very off putting.

          • The Anonymous Hutt

            True, I agree.

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